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#1 Admin Prime

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:01 PM

Because this is the most important thing:

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That's it. Or could be it. Or something. But a few pages have been leaked from the recently announced Legend of Zelda Art Book (so far Japan only), including the above timeline. Being that the art book is official, it would appear that this is indeed the actual timeline. Unless Nintendo decides to go "lol jk"

Points of interest:

1) Apparently the idea that Minish Cap and Four Swords were the earliest points in the timeline prior to Skyward was correct. I think there was someone here who argued against that, not sure though.
2) The timeline splits THREE ways at Ocarina? That's a little... excessive...
- 2.1) Apparently A Link to the Past on exists in a line where Link failed to defeat Ganon.
- 2.2) Majora's Mask on continues from Link's return to childhood in Ocarina
- 2.3) Wind Waker continues from the future Link left in Ocarina

So, what do you guys think?

Oh, and back to the art book.

The book is called "Hyrule Historia". It contains 274 pages of concept and promotional art of all the games in the series, along with information about the characters and games. As I said above it's so far Japan only, with a price around $40 USD. Hopefully it comes here because it's totally bad-ass.

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More links for the art book:
http://kotaku.com/58...zelda-art-book/
http://kotaku.com/58...ed-in-25-years/
http://kotaku.com/58...-zelda-timeline
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:17 PM

Three timelines? Really? This could mean four different things:

1.) LttP, OoS/OoA, LA, LoZ and AoL are on the third timeline because are too difficult to accurately place in the other two (or it doesn't matter where they're placed)...
2.) This was not actually compiled by Nintendo at all.
3.) Nintendo pulled this out of their hats while they compiled this.
4.) This really came from "document Z" and Nintendo just hasn't said anything about it yet.

I really think it's the third option. I guess it could be the fourth, but when Aonuma and Miyamoto have both previously said that there were TWO timelines, why would they go in and add another one? Unless (dun dun dunn) there's something we don't know.

But I really don't think so. It's very likely the first option. Yes. I'll stick with that.

Also, is that really the page from the art book? It's so... uninspired. You'd think they'd make it more... I don't know... artsy?
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

Kotaku's source doesn't use that image, so it looks like they made it (hence the watermark, which they don't normally use). The source did get the timeline from the official art book though, which was compiled by Nintendo.

And did they ever say specifically that there was specifically two timelines? I though all that was said that it was split, and that TP and WW occur in different timelines.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:48 PM

Well, a third timeline would explain a whole lot.

Damn, this book looks amazing. I rarely import stuff, but if this isn't released over here i am definitely importing it.

Wait a second. Isn't the background in that pic that one piece of fan art that was recieving a lot of buzz this year. Unless Nintendo was willing to pay for a piece of fan art, then i call shenanigans.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:21 PM

Wait a second. Isn't the background in that pic that one piece of fan art that was recieving a lot of buzz this year. Unless Nintendo was willing to pay for a piece of fan art, then i call shenanigans.


Kotaku's source doesn't use that image, so it looks like they made it (hence the watermark, which they don't normally use).


Read bro. Read.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:19 PM

I could be wrong but wouldn't it be the other way around regarding the three timelines?

WW: Link Fails, God saves people with water.
LttP: Link succeeds, seals Ganon into the Golden Realm, create the Dark World.
MM: Link goes back in time.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

I could be wrong but wouldn't it be the other way around regarding the three timelines?

WW: Link Fails, God saves people with water.
LttP: Link succeeds, seals Ganon into the Golden Realm, create the Dark World.
MM: Link goes back in time.


It's:

LttP: Link fails, Ganon rules for a while, then gets sealed away
WW: After Link leaves the future, Ganon returns but Link does not, then the world is flooded
MM: Link continues life as a child

I agree though that it sounds a little better the other way, but honestly the entire LttP line seems pretty arbitrary anyway. I guess it only exists because LttP can't exist in the other two (supposedly with OoT anyway, I got that from a random comment so it could be false), so they just made up a 3rd BS scenario.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 07:47 PM

Read bro. Read.

My bad. I was at work and since i only get so long for my break, i had to skim over a some of the details. At least now i know that doesn't de-validate its authenticity.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:28 AM

1) Apparently the idea that Minish Cap and Four Swords were the earliest points in the timeline prior to Skyward was correct. I think there was someone here who argued against that, not sure though.

I was saying that Minish Cap would still precede Skyward Sword, if only because it was going to be the first time Link would wear something green on his head, starting the tradition of wearing green hoods for centuries to come, but given that this timeline is true, Skyward Sword shits on that.


Anyway, what the fuck. How does ANYTHING take place after Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass? For those who played it (I think only EP did), what explanation do they give for the water going away? Hyrule should be fucked after that, unless if the goddess makes it rain upwards for a year or flushes the world's toilet or some other ridiculous thing.
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 12:03 PM

Minish Cap must be first because it started a fashion trend. Sounds like solid reasoning to me.

Wind Waker ends with Link and Zelda going off to find a new land to be the new Hyrule. Phantom Hourglass is just a distraction on the way to that new land. Spirit Tracks takes place in that new land, about a hundred years after they found it.

Also, i was kind surprised to see that Four Swords Adventures follows TP, considering how similar it is to aLttP.

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